This day in history...I mean present: first ever end-to-end encrypted message to be sent from a #dumbphone?

https://git.disroot.org/badrihippo/convo/commit/c95d048c9dafa51ceef5c5c07b241abe6290696b

Using #Convo on #KaiOS, powered by #ConverseJS, #XMPP, #OMEMO, and #libsignal

@ravi let me know if you could decrypt the message though 😅

@debacle @badrihippo Indeed, that phone is sometimes called a hybrid phone if I recall correctly.

@debacle @badrihippo Yes, you're right. 👌

@regendans @debacle oh yes, it is indeed a feature phone. That word eluded me for a moment because the term "dumbphone" is trending more 😅

@brie only one step happening here, but I'm working towards it! 💭

@badrihippo I don’t understand who “publishes“ outside #KaiStore. Assuming 1% of KaiOS devices are still in active use, reduces addressable market by 99%. Out of 1%.

KaiOS jailbreaking is not exactly user friendly. Nor always possible.

@WuMing2 people who have not yet got around to publishing on the KaiStore

@WuMing2 there are also some who don't want to implement #KaiAds, which is a mandatory precondition for publishing to the KaiStore. (I'm planning to implement it once the rest of the app is in usable state but have a flag to leave it out of the non-KaiStore variant)

@badrihippo Wasn't WhatsApp available for KaiOS earlier?

@praveen you're right...that might have been encrypted too

Maybe we should say: first #E2EE message sent from a #FreeSoftware app on a #FeaturePhone?

@SpaciousCoder78 well they received KaiOS 4 recently. But you're not wrong 🫠

@praveen

@badrihippo does firefoxos count as feature phone or smart phone ?

@valhalla @praveen it also depends on the hardware, doesn't it?

#Debian on a #PocoF1 is very much a smartphone, but if you put the same label to Debian on a #Beepy it won't quite live up to expectations

Unfortunately, many people have the impression that "being small with a physical numpad" and "capable of running complex applications" are mutually exclusive resulting in most manufacturers not giving good specs to such devices. So in practice #KaiOS phones are closer to feature phones 😕

@erebion cool! I haven't added the UI yet btw, but will hopefully do so by the time your order arrives 😜

You can run Convo in a browser! It's just JavaScript and I've made "[" and "]" double up as the special left/right softkeys. (I should actually change that to something less annoying for typing, like "shift+arrow")

In fact, since KaiOS 2 is so ancient, you can run it on any version of Gecko version 48 or newer 😉

@erebion I've been thinking of making Convo touch-friendly for use in e-readers (which should work in Mobian too). Not sure how that'll play with a KaiOS friendly layout, but let's see

@valhalla @badrihippo I also had ZTE Open, but it was very low powered for a smartphone. I could not type otp for online transaction because if you open sms app, the browser gets killed.

@praveen @valhalla I've never even dared to try making an online transaction on KaiOS 😅

I'm sometimes able to open the SMS app and then switch back to the browser to find it still open. But it probably depends on how much RAM that particular web page is using. Theoretically there's no reason for payment gateways to have very heavy web pages, but I'm yet to come across a light one

But I love when the OTP is included at the beginning of the SMS so I can read it directly from the notification 😁

@badrihippo hey, can you put your achievement on a blog post? thanks :D