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@xerz @sean @mrojo not all creators are in it for the money, indeed I suspect only a tiny fraction of YouTube posters make any money from it, but it is widely available and free to post. You need a level of skill to set up a Peertube server and those skills are not always found in the same person as a musician, artist etc

@apiscitelli @robertwgehl as an update to that - there are now Guardian and BBC journalists on the Fediverse, but as individuals, rather than under the banner of their publishers.

@apiscitelli @robertwgehl There are lots of reasons why federated social media is the natural home for Journalists
https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/

@dkellyj There is a good Peertube video at https://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD with an introduction to Federation

@kathygriffin @stux There is a Federated equivalent to YouTube, called PeerTube, which specialises in video content. They sort of work together, but there are fewer PeerTube servers than Mastodon servers as video needs more resources to set up.

Some care is needed in navigating the PeerTube as it contains a lot of either Vaccine Denial, or The Truth About The Global Vaccine Conspiracy, depending on your point of view.

@jeremy @matthewrmoore This also helps with the problem of people using random servers set up by well intentioned people who are suddenly being flooded with new users.
See https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2022/10/28/funding-the-fediverse/

@katebevan I believe the answer is for various sized organisations to set up servers, purely for their members - thus dealing with the scale problem - thus The Guardian would set up a large server for it's Journalists, and a small local newspaper a much smaller one, etc. I wrote something at https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2022/10/28/funding-the-fediverse/ about this

@ralf I wrote something about how journalists should be paying attention to the #fediverse at https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/

I would love to be able to follow trusted news sources on the Fediverse

@EU_Commission thank you for an important initiative. It would benefit a growing number of people on IPV6 only networks if social.network.europa.eu had IPv6 connectivity, as, like fossil fuels and other resources, IPv4 addresses are becoming scarce.

@openrightsgroup @tek_dmn The problem is that the groups wishing to ban or limit encryption (police, governments, even people with legitimate concerns about crimes such as human trafficking) tend to encounter a disproportionate number of 'bad' people, which slants their view of the uses for encryption. I believe there are vastly more good people who want to be able to interact with each other freely, conduct legitimate business safely and privately.

@dorian I have just read the article at https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-mastodon-trump where they say the Truth Social site claims that '“all source code” of Truth Social is proprietary.' Unfortunately the presence of a demonstrably untrue statement on the site will probably have no impact on how much it is trusted by its followers, as they seem to use different criteria for evaluating trust than I do.

@gert @dorian @humanetech @aral Self hosting is good in many ways, but tricky to generalise due to lack of static IP addresses. Freedombox https://freedombox.org/ is good in that area (I am a contributor), but the complexities of running behind a home router introduce obstacles.

@dorian I think it is naive to try to prevent people abusing free software by a licence change, in the same way as preventing bank robberies by putting them in a 20mph zone Also while there are people who take an extreme position on Free Speech or Free Markets, most people are more nuanced, for example agreeing that there should be limits on hate speech, or cautious about the benefits of Free Trade https://blog.wp.paladyn.org/2021/10/09/good-economics-for-hard-times/

@lxo @dorian I personally would certainly not. I do happen to know how to code, but live in an interdependent society where I would not expect to be abused by doctors because I do not have a medical degree, taxi drivers because I do not know my way around strange cities, refuse collectors because I do not deal with my own rubbish.

@humanetech @dorian I would like it to be easier for small non technical organisations to be able to set up and run their own web presence, as described at https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/11/11/small-organisation-server-the-target/ As a Debian developer I would like this entirely Debian based, but pragmatically Yunohost looks a better route for Oxford Phab Club https://oxford-phab.wp.paladyn.org/ for example, in the short term.

Success from planning vs success by accident. The DNS is almost invisible, planned carefully and openly by a small team of very smart people most people have never heard of. The reasoning behind it can be examined to learn from it in future. Facebook started as a college yearbook, Uber as a ride sharing app, AirBnb as a room sharing system. Theier creators deserve credit for not messing up, but should acknowledge a large measure of luck.

@sean I believe that to get Federated Social Media (of all types) to take off it needs to be embraced by traditional media as per https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/ and small organisations like the imaginary Ambridge Garden Club https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2020/11/07/the-ambridge-garden-club/.

@sean apart from Debian and Blender, er peertube instances are run by people who are interested in peertube and the technology, rather than other stuff (and Debian is not exactly mainstream). My wife is leaning to crochet from YouTube videos, but what are the chances of someone with those skills knowing about peertube rather than youtube. https://peertube.paladyn.org/ has videos from Oxford Phab, but that is an anomaly as I can set up my own server.