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re: What model should journalism take on Mastodon?
@stokel In time, but preferably soon, journals should host their own Fediverse servers - journalists can partly take their credibility from the journal which hosts the post, though freelancers may well end up having their own identity as well - so @SomeJournalist@bbc.co.uk could also be @SomeJournalist@theguardian.com, and @SomeJournalist@somejournalist.social.

@gabriliberal @Eunomia I feel part of the answer lies in the federated nature of the Fediverse, together with the existing tree structured nature of the DNS. Only the official European commission can have Fediverse sites which end in .europa.eu. Your trust (or not) can be inherited from your trust in the domain.

re: Twitter Chaos
The article talks about police and emergency services using Twitter and the possible problems if those were forged accounts. The ThamesVP Twitter account is only trustworthy if already known as the trust in Twitter is essentially 'flat' or should be, but much harder to masquerade an account of thamesvalley.police.uk in the Fediverse as that inherits trust from police.uk - https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/01/12/it-is-good-to-be-a-tree/

Twitter Chaos

From the BBC Twitter chaos after wave of blue tick impersonations - the fundamental problem is concentrating the problem of reputation in one central place. Also Twitter’s primary concern with reputation is its own and it is only concerned about the damage to the reputation of its users because the reflects on it.

@xerz @sean @mrojo not all creators are in it for the money, indeed I suspect only a tiny fraction of YouTube posters make any money from it, but it is widely available and free to post. You need a level of skill to set up a Peertube server and those skills are not always found in the same person as a musician, artist etc

@apiscitelli @robertwgehl as an update to that - there are now Guardian and BBC journalists on the Fediverse, but as individuals, rather than under the banner of their publishers.

@apiscitelli @robertwgehl There are lots of reasons why federated social media is the natural home for Journalists
https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/

@dkellyj There is a good Peertube video at https://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD with an introduction to Federation

@kathygriffin @stux There is a Federated equivalent to YouTube, called PeerTube, which specialises in video content. They sort of work together, but there are fewer PeerTube servers than Mastodon servers as video needs more resources to set up.

Some care is needed in navigating the PeerTube as it contains a lot of either Vaccine Denial, or The Truth About The Global Vaccine Conspiracy, depending on your point of view.

@jeremy @matthewrmoore This also helps with the problem of people using random servers set up by well intentioned people who are suddenly being flooded with new users.
See https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2022/10/28/funding-the-fediverse/

@katebevan I believe the answer is for various sized organisations to set up servers, purely for their members - thus dealing with the scale problem - thus The Guardian would set up a large server for it's Journalists, and a small local newspaper a much smaller one, etc. I wrote something at https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2022/10/28/funding-the-fediverse/ about this

Mastodon in BBC article
Good to read the article at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-63534240

and I hope it's author continues to explore and report of Federated Social Media. Too bad nobody has done the preparation so she could be @zsk@bbc.co.uk (Note this odes not exist at time of my post)

@ralf I wrote something about how journalists should be paying attention to the #fediverse at https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/

I would love to be able to follow trusted news sources on the Fediverse

@EU_Commission thank you for an important initiative. It would benefit a growing number of people on IPV6 only networks if social.network.europa.eu had IPv6 connectivity, as, like fossil fuels and other resources, IPv4 addresses are becoming scarce.

Institute of Network Cultures
Just came across https://networkcultures.org/ with interesting articles on the Internet and society and a new section on Ukraine.

@openrightsgroup @tek_dmn The problem is that the groups wishing to ban or limit encryption (police, governments, even people with legitimate concerns about crimes such as human trafficking) tend to encounter a disproportionate number of 'bad' people, which slants their view of the uses for encryption. I believe there are vastly more good people who want to be able to interact with each other freely, conduct legitimate business safely and privately.

@dorian I have just read the article at https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dgm5k/truth-social-is-mastodon-trump where they say the Truth Social site claims that '“all source code” of Truth Social is proprietary.' Unfortunately the presence of a demonstrably untrue statement on the site will probably have no impact on how much it is trusted by its followers, as they seem to use different criteria for evaluating trust than I do.

@gert @dorian @humanetech @aral Self hosting is good in many ways, but tricky to generalise due to lack of static IP addresses. Freedombox https://freedombox.org/ is good in that area (I am a contributor), but the complexities of running behind a home router introduce obstacles.

@dorian I think it is naive to try to prevent people abusing free software by a licence change, in the same way as preventing bank robberies by putting them in a 20mph zone Also while there are people who take an extreme position on Free Speech or Free Markets, most people are more nuanced, for example agreeing that there should be limits on hate speech, or cautious about the benefits of Free Trade https://blog.wp.paladyn.org/2021/10/09/good-economics-for-hard-times/

@lxo @dorian I personally would certainly not. I do happen to know how to code, but live in an interdependent society where I would not expect to be abused by doctors because I do not have a medical degree, taxi drivers because I do not know my way around strange cities, refuse collectors because I do not deal with my own rubbish.

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