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Wouter Verhelst | @wouter@pleroma.debian.social

Debian Developer. husband. ex-FOSDEM organizer. Tennis lover. Amateur musician.

If it ain't fun, you're not doing it right.

@foxyoreos
That's not my reading (more like, today's tech shows that something is possible even if we might prefer to do that with some tech that is similar in abilities but made in a different way), but I'm not him and I don't care enough to argue this further, so, meh 🤷

@foxyoreos
Meanwhile it is certainly possible to see ways, in well prescribed and clearly delineated circumstances, where the tech can be used for good. In my reading, that's everything he's been arguing.

To say that it's not possible at all because it's not possible today is being dishonest with yourself about the truth.

I didn't see anyone disagree with the statement that it's not possible today, so to argue that is a waste of everyone's time.

@foxyoreos
It is a prerequisite to using, yes, but not a prerequisite to seeing the possibilities of the technologies and/or arguing that there are good uses of the technology.

OP has mentioned multiple times in this thread that he's not supportive of everything about today's version of the tech, so to tell him that there are terrible parts about it is preaching to the choir.

@foxyoreos
It's possible to argue for a technology that you can see could theoretically exist even if you don't see it existing today.

I mean, someone in the early eighties had a rant about a printer and decided he wanted to argue for a free operating system.
@mjg59 @petko

why do people say stuff like this because now i gotta get doom running on a cpap machine

in accordance with network security requirements the cpu on this equipment only supports our product software standards and is not compatible with other external software

@mirabilos
Very! I can consistently reach D2, though only barely and with a lot of air and not a lot of volume. If I had a lot of alcohol and/or not a lot of sleep the night before, I can *sometimes* reach C2, but it's rare.

I once sang with someone who could reach G1 (not a typo). Now *that* was impressive. And beautiful.
@bytebro

@mirabilos
I can reach E4 without warm-up. With warm-up I can get a little bit higher than that, sometimes up to G4.

I however did not say it was easy, nor that it is something I can sustain for long stretches of time without hurting my throat 😉
@bytebro

Yes, current LLM bad, because of the unethical behaviour of the companies pushing it. And yes, that's reason enough to dislike current LLMs.

But the tech itself is not terrible, and if we can build it ethically, can be useful.
@mjg59 @Ced

@Ced
I don't think that anyone is claiming that we have that today. Certainly I didn't read Matthew's post that started off this thread in that way.

There's a subset of people in the free software community that go 'all LLM bad'. I don't necessarily agree with that.
@mjg59

@mirabilos
Well during my recent audition I got to F above middle C without resorting to falsetto, which when the conductor told me (I don't have absolute pitch) surprised me, but only a bit.

Would have been able to get a bit higher but that probable would've hurt my voice so I didn't
@bytebro

@Ced
and (b) them wanting to serve millions of users which requires more compute, than it is about limitations inherent in the technology.

All you need to replicate this is a sufficiently large data set, a bit of compute time, and an open source license.
@mjg59

@Ced
GCC at the time was thought of as something no volunteer could build.

They did it anyway.

There is nothing inherent about the technology behind LLMs that can't be built by a sufficiently determined group of volunteers.

The fact that current LLMs require whole data centres to run has more to do with (a) the fact that companies take performance shortcuts because they have money to burn and it takes them to market faster,
@mjg59

@bytebro
I mentioned it in the post, but: 2nd bass, ever since I was 18 or so.
@AweThatSparkle @mirabilos

@mirabilos
John Rutter?

*Jealous*
@bytebro

@bytebro
Ooohh, can I join the club? Been in choirs since I was 16, almost continuously until my early 40s, went on a break 'for a few months' after my Intercontinental move that ended up being 7 years...

2nd bass at scct.co.za since a few months now and loving it!
@mirabilos @AweThatSparkle

My introvert 19yo daughter has been accepted for a student exchange program in university (Health & Life Sciences) in 26Q3 but has cold feet due to rumors it's a posh, partying and racist place.

Anyone know anyone who could comment on how is like nowadays (as opposed to 2018 when there was a public racist issue in a student chat group)?

(boosts help reach so they are greatly appreciated)

@mirabilos
You are aware that there's a rust frontend to GCC in progress, right?

https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs
@xgranade

Shooting my shot!

A screenshot of a chat between the sender and their crush. 

Aug 14th
Sender: Would you like to hang out in my bunker?
Crush: lol, no. Maybe when WW3 starts.

Today
Sender: Hey!

(First time meme)
GEN Z, FREAKING OUT ABOUT NUCLEAR WAR

GEN X…. First time?

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