@dysfun
I find LLMs might be considered a meta programming tool: you tell it what to do, it does that and nothing more. If there are gaps in your prompt, it will not intelligently fill them up or ask you for clarification, like an intern might; instead it will find the absolute worst thing to do and it will do that. Confidently.
Don't treat it like an intern, treat it like a compiler with a bad case of nasal daemons.
@samir
I find LLMs might be considered a meta programming tool: you tell it what to do, it does that and nothing more. If there are gaps in your prompt, it will not intelligently fill them up or ask you for clarification, like an intern might; instead it will find the absolute worst thing to do and it will do that. Confidently.
Don't treat it like an intern, treat it like a compiler with a bad case of nasal daemons.
@samir
@jcrabapple
Something so rich in cholesterol that my cardiologist will have a sympathetic heart attack.
Something so rich in cholesterol that my cardiologist will have a sympathetic heart attack.
@ariadne
I chose tech bro in part because of the Alpine connection.
Yes, I know that's not what tech bro means, but it was the closest to how I perceive you: someone who is actively known for working on technology.
You should have added 'open source celeb' to the list, would have been much better then 😂
@dysfun
I chose tech bro in part because of the Alpine connection.
Yes, I know that's not what tech bro means, but it was the closest to how I perceive you: someone who is actively known for working on technology.
You should have added 'open source celeb' to the list, would have been much better then 😂
@dysfun
@liw
<evil grin> use an LLM to interpret the CI definition and ask it to generate an overengineered stub that simulates your CI environment and then call that every time?
(yes I've seen people do that 🤷)
<evil grin> use an LLM to interpret the CI definition and ask it to generate an overengineered stub that simulates your CI environment and then call that every time?
(yes I've seen people do that 🤷)
@bagder
Cache machine 🤔
I know it's just a typo but my brain now can't stop thinking about what a cache machine would be 😂
@kudemadu @jwildeboer
Cache machine 🤔
I know it's just a typo but my brain now can't stop thinking about what a cache machine would be 😂
@kudemadu @jwildeboer
@anon_opin
+1, would buy, have had to dismantle and clean my das keyboards (both of them) with water and soap more often than I care to admit!
+1, would buy, have had to dismantle and clean my das keyboards (both of them) with water and soap more often than I care to admit!
@mirabilos
Possibly, I'm not hung up on the percentages. A lot also depends on the model being used, of course; some have better results than others.
@zwangseinweisung
Possibly, I'm not hung up on the percentages. A lot also depends on the model being used, of course; some have better results than others.
@zwangseinweisung
@mirabilos
Nowhere in that text do I say it is perfect or resembling the quality of a human doing the same thing. In fact, I explicitly state it gets things *mostly* right "about 95% of the time".
Mostly is not entirely.
95% is not 100%.
Also, these are gut-feel percentages, not statistically sound ones.
Don't quote me out of context, please.
@zwangseinweisung
Nowhere in that text do I say it is perfect or resembling the quality of a human doing the same thing. In fact, I explicitly state it gets things *mostly* right "about 95% of the time".
Mostly is not entirely.
95% is not 100%.
Also, these are gut-feel percentages, not statistically sound ones.
Don't quote me out of context, please.
@zwangseinweisung
See @bkuhn is under a lot of stress currently because of the @conservancy LLM-gen-AI stuff.
Hey Bradley, ❤️. I can see you're feeling under attack. Don't take it personal. People are emotional now, and are saying things they might otherwise not.
Don't fan the flames. It's going to get better 🫂
Hey Bradley, ❤️. I can see you're feeling under attack. Don't take it personal. People are emotional now, and are saying things they might otherwise not.
Don't fan the flames. It's going to get better 🫂
understanding the problems. Someone suggesting LLM use might not be aware, and *personally* I would rather try to educate them before banning.
But you do you. I don't pay you, I'm not your boss, and I won't think less of you (if you care about that, which you probably don't and that's fine) if you do ban at first sight.
🤷
@conservancy @dalias
But you do you. I don't pay you, I'm not your boss, and I won't think less of you (if you care about that, which you probably don't and that's fine) if you do ban at first sight.
🤷
@conservancy @dalias
@dalias
Any community can do anything they like. Some things will not make said community healthy, but that's their problem.
Anyone arguing they should be allowed to do something because conservancy said so is just trolling, and is clearly only selectively reading things. Ban that on first sight, sure.
At a technical level, LLM tech can seem like magic. It's easy to see only that and think it's a panacea without @conservancy
Any community can do anything they like. Some things will not make said community healthy, but that's their problem.
Anyone arguing they should be allowed to do something because conservancy said so is just trolling, and is clearly only selectively reading things. Ban that on first sight, sure.
At a technical level, LLM tech can seem like magic. It's easy to see only that and think it's a panacea without @conservancy
@wynke
(For my non-Dutch-speaking followers: in Dutch, the word 'kombuis' means 'galley', as in, ship's kitchen...)
@Aprazeth @alice @riverpunk
(For my non-Dutch-speaking followers: in Dutch, the word 'kombuis' means 'galley', as in, ship's kitchen...)
@Aprazeth @alice @riverpunk
@dalias
Maybe that's not what it means to you, but that's how I read it.
I'm happy to learn you see it that way, and assume you practice what you preach.
However, I have seen people shun right away on first sight of even daring to mention the concept of AI. I don't think that's useful, and I understood that guideline to mean that you shouldn't do that.
If it doesn't then I agree with you that it's not helpful. But I don't think that's the case.
@conservancy
Maybe that's not what it means to you, but that's how I read it.
I'm happy to learn you see it that way, and assume you practice what you preach.
However, I have seen people shun right away on first sight of even daring to mention the concept of AI. I don't think that's useful, and I understood that guideline to mean that you shouldn't do that.
If it doesn't then I agree with you that it's not helpful. But I don't think that's the case.
@conservancy
@mirabilos
Totally different story. I'm not opposed to banning such people. In my reading, that's also not what SFC is suggesting.
@dalias @conservancy
Totally different story. I'm not opposed to banning such people. In my reading, that's also not what SFC is suggesting.
@dalias @conservancy