@lettosprey
(This is, occasionally, also why I'm trying to convince the powers that be at $DAYJOB to look into self-hosting rather than relying on hosted LLMs: so I can experiment with the available models and potentially also work on making them more attractive than the hosted ones)
@xgranade
(This is, occasionally, also why I'm trying to convince the powers that be at $DAYJOB to look into self-hosting rather than relying on hosted LLMs: so I can experiment with the available models and potentially also work on making them more attractive than the hosted ones)
@xgranade
@lettosprey
> The "run at home" LLM's are not exactly much to get excited about.
Certainly true several months ago, and probably true today (more so from an ideological than a technical pov).
I feel the way out of this mess though is through this. If we "run at home" LLMs are competitive with hosted ones, then when the bubble bursts and big tech must hike their prices, not even the people most convinced will want to use them anymore.
@xgranade
> The "run at home" LLM's are not exactly much to get excited about.
Certainly true several months ago, and probably true today (more so from an ideological than a technical pov).
I feel the way out of this mess though is through this. If we "run at home" LLMs are competitive with hosted ones, then when the bubble bursts and big tech must hike their prices, not even the people most convinced will want to use them anymore.
@xgranade
@lettosprey
> It doesn't matter that "big tech are not the only ones that can...", when projects use their LLM's (...)
Absolutely. I am 100% with you that free software should not be beholden to big tech. Unfortunately "open source" was always a ploy to get big tech to embrace free software, and so depending on why you are here, you might not care as much. ("You" as in the hypothetical open source developer, not you personally)
@xgranade
> It doesn't matter that "big tech are not the only ones that can...", when projects use their LLM's (...)
Absolutely. I am 100% with you that free software should not be beholden to big tech. Unfortunately "open source" was always a ploy to get big tech to embrace free software, and so depending on why you are here, you might not care as much. ("You" as in the hypothetical open source developer, not you personally)
@xgranade
@lettosprey
> You don't need to understand every ones position on this.
True, but I genuinely wanted to, and because you and others kindly took the time, I do believe I understand the position better now; or if not, then at least it no longer feels logically inconsistent to me. Thank you for that.
@xgranade
> You don't need to understand every ones position on this.
True, but I genuinely wanted to, and because you and others kindly took the time, I do believe I understand the position better now; or if not, then at least it no longer feels logically inconsistent to me. Thank you for that.
@xgranade
@lettosprey
Am I correct in stating that it's more an anti-big tech position, then? That makes more sense to me.
I don't think it's entirely an accurate position, as it would imply that (a) only big tech can run LLMs, and (b) all of FLOSS is anti-big tech, both of which I believe are accurate statements, but I can better understand that position of that's what it is.
@xgranade
Am I correct in stating that it's more an anti-big tech position, then? That makes more sense to me.
I don't think it's entirely an accurate position, as it would imply that (a) only big tech can run LLMs, and (b) all of FLOSS is anti-big tech, both of which I believe are accurate statements, but I can better understand that position of that's what it is.
@xgranade
@xgranade
Not trying to be obtuse here, but:
Why does this feel like betrayal to you?
I understand the desire to not use llm-generated code (though I don't share that desire). I don't understand your use of the term 'betrayal' here though.
Not to say that your opinion is invalid! Just... I feel like I must be missing something here.
Not trying to be obtuse here, but:
Why does this feel like betrayal to you?
I understand the desire to not use llm-generated code (though I don't share that desire). I don't understand your use of the term 'betrayal' here though.
Not to say that your opinion is invalid! Just... I feel like I must be missing something here.
@hyc
Well on the plus side if you have a car accident while you were looking at the insurance policy at least you'll know what to do very quickly 🤷
Well on the plus side if you have a car accident while you were looking at the insurance policy at least you'll know what to do very quickly 🤷
Fridays always get a thumbs up from me
Edit: link to the original video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_mSbcVQPRXg
@mcc
I think it's more technical than price. Remember these are 8 bit machines, so it's easier to express colors in ways that fit inside a single byte, otherwise you have to do three instructions per pixel, which slows your calculations down significantly.
That limitation gives you 2 bits per color (or 2/3/3 if you want to get fancy), which means you do not have that many options for color gradients.
@aeva
I think it's more technical than price. Remember these are 8 bit machines, so it's easier to express colors in ways that fit inside a single byte, otherwise you have to do three instructions per pixel, which slows your calculations down significantly.
That limitation gives you 2 bits per color (or 2/3/3 if you want to get fancy), which means you do not have that many options for color gradients.
@aeva
Them: What are you dressed as?
Me: A harp.
Them: Bit small for a harp don’t you think?
Me: Are you calling me a lyre?
'Phonetic' is not.
'Abbreviation' is 12 letters.
'Thesaurus' doesn't have a synonym.
'Monosyllabic' has five syllables.
'Hyphenated’ isn't, but ‘non-hyphenated’ is.
Say what you will about English, but it has a sense of humour.
@bagder
Just as an FYI.
GitHub supports merging PRs with linear history these days. Doing that gives you a 'rebase and merge' option without merge commits.
Dunno whether you're aware or whether it meets your requirements that make you not use the merge button right now, but I thought I'd point it out just in case.
Just as an FYI.
GitHub supports merging PRs with linear history these days. Doing that gives you a 'rebase and merge' option without merge commits.
Dunno whether you're aware or whether it meets your requirements that make you not use the merge button right now, but I thought I'd point it out just in case.
FOSDEM 2027 will take place on 30 & 31 January 2027
https://fosdem.org/2027/news/fosdem-2027-dates/
@juliank
If you just want to get the humidity down, it's usually better to get a dedicated dehumidifier. They're more efficient in dehumidifying than an AC unit, not as loud, and use far less energy.
Ours is https://www.meaco.com/products/meaco-meacodry-dehumidifier-abc-range-10l?variant=33722215334019 and it works very well, but there are other options I'm sure.
If you just want to get the humidity down, it's usually better to get a dedicated dehumidifier. They're more efficient in dehumidifying than an AC unit, not as loud, and use far less energy.
Ours is https://www.meaco.com/products/meaco-meacodry-dehumidifier-abc-range-10l?variant=33722215334019 and it works very well, but there are other options I'm sure.