Friendly reminder that you should consider everything you say on the Fediverse to be publicly available and archived by your adversaries, who can and will use it against you.
"Quiet public" isn't saving you from that. "Followers-only" isn't saving you from that. Don't assume your DMs are private either.
@vkc
It would not be unreasonable to apply this to every human interaction you have, to be honest.
This is the correct take: the Fediverse isn't "dark social", it's just not algorithmic, and that isn't the same thing.
@vkc
The folks who need to hear this, never listen.
@vkc the advice I was given years ago was that don't say anything online you that wouldn't say to a room full of people and I think that still stands
I'm quite vocal about certain things online but its nothing I wouldn't say in person and there is so much I just don't say on or offline
Nothing on the internet should be thought of as private unless you yourself took steps to explicitly make it so - and even then I'd be careful, metadata is logged everywhere.
The way I heard it described best is to think of the internet as about as private as a public bulletin board at your supermarket or library. Even if you don't sign your notes, some people can see you put it up and who reads it.
@vkc Signal messenger
@vkc so what you're trying to say is everyone knows I'm a close Windows 11 fanboy who enjoys hacking the registry? 😅
@vkc assume that for every single piece of technology in the internet
@vkc
My "adversaries" hear exactly what I want them to hear.
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@vkc I mean, it's social media, not encrypted messenger. Assuming privacy on public platform is kinda stupid. You use Signal for that, not Mastodon or Lemmy...
@vkc I feel like this is the internet in general. I feel like whatever you say on private or public, someone is bound to be offended by it and use it against you. I also think it’s why you need to be careful who you befriend and message online too.
@vkc dm don’t exist in fediverse do they
@vkc With that said running your own instance gives you ownership of the data at its source. You can destroy the posts and the cache leaving at the very least drniability. I won't say legal standing as I don't think the courts in the US actually function any more.
That's better than anything you're going to get anywhere else including BlueSky.
@vkc My life is public. Yes, there are vulnerabilities. Yee-ha.
@vkc I choose carefully what information I put on souau media, but I don’t care much for it.
Now, LLMS are a problem for my morals haha I wouldn’t want my fedi data being used to train LLMS. But it’s probably a reality
@vkc The old rule, what you put on the internet, stays on the internet for all to see, is still a good one.
@vkc tell me you live in the USA without telling me..
@vkc It's the reason why I'm wearing corporate as a suit on here.
@vkc My adversaries can go fuck themselves.
Do not obey in advance.
@vkc
I type a lot of my posts with that in mind, and also some "I hope those assholes see this."
@vkc How does this relate to the threat model? If you want a private social media account for followers only that doesn't show up in search results, but you don't need strong privacy against hackers / state actors, can followers-only be considered ok privacy?
@vkc I deny everything
@vkc IT WAS MY BROTHER ON MY ACCOUNT DOING A PRANK ON ME
@vkc I deny everything. I wasn't even here.
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@halfredgreenapple I'm guessing you haven't read this yet.
https://www.moparisthebest.com/against-silos-signal/
Also -
https://www.moparisthebest.com/tim-henkes-omemo-response.txt
@fabiscafe @kkarhan @vkc and no e2ee scheme resists to either end being compromised.
@nicoco @fabiscafe @kkarhan @vkc
Obviously no form of communication can ever stop a compromised person at the other end, because by definition a message has to be readable by its recipient.
But that doesn't mean you give up securing the journey from one end to the other. There are lots of things you can do to stop people in the middle spying on you.
As the saying goes, perfection is the enemy of good, especially if perfection is impossible.
@FediThing @nicoco is not advocating giving up. It's a (heavily veiled) criticism of centralized services like #Signal, which are a tempting and easy target for coercion and backdoors. People who recognize that, push for #decentralized alternatives like #XMPP.
@vkc what in tux's name is giong on rn?
@vkc I know no one IRL that I follow or who follow me here.
I just post, boost & comment as I see fit.
It’s WYSIWYG with me.
I don’t think it matters anyhow… the web-crawlers are all over it,
and they are doubtless training LLMs. And like as not archiving it, so if ever there’s a Russian takeover of the USA (is that what’s happening?) then maybe I’m toast, Unless I am sufficiently anonymous….
@vkc Instead of all-or-nothing, I see it as means to delay the leak. If you maintain a "closed" profile with follower requests and investigate before accepting those, there is still a temptation to share something with followers only - but you should never feel pressured to do those, it's not the objective. DMs on most fedivers platforms are glorified forum PMs with admin's hand itching.