pleroma.debian.social

pleroma.debian.social

Because of the ongoing fucktastrophe, the cries of "Use SIGNAL!" are constant and unavoidable. And I get it, it may be the least-bad option in a sea of terrible options. If, that is, you choose to ignore the advice of "don't use your phone for that...
https://jwz.org/b/ykmD

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@jwz not on your list, but “allow signal to [insert thing here]” -> No -> “we’ll ask you again later” is still a thing.
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Just one more centralized service bro, just one more single-source unmodifiable app bro, just one more monolithic server farm operated in secret by a single corporation bro, this time we'll get it right bro...

@Rgsharpe @jwz I kind of get using Signal if you think you're in a government's radar and want E2EE today and don't know anyone trustworthy to run an server for you and don't mind sharing your phone number to a US company and some of its users ("least worst", as you said)

Since I have the privilege of not being in that situation, I'm instead supporting the open, federated, enshittification-resistant XMPP protocol so we can give ourselves comparable privacy and more besides😉

@nex @licho I once had a Signal account taken over by someone else through this:
1. I got a prepaid SIM to sign up for a Signal account.
2. I left the SIM card unused for two years
3. The provider decided I don't use that SIM card anymore and disabled it.
4. The provider assigned the phone number to a new SIM card.
5. The new user signed up for a Signal account using what previously was my Signal phone number.
6. I had to notify my contacts that they can't reach me on Signal anymore.

all of these points are moot as long as signal only releases clients for operating systems controlled by corporations. Their protocol's technical credentials are meaningless in the face of the fact that I will not run these operating systems. If Signal were actually 'open' in any meaningful sense I could run the client of my choice on the operating system of my choice. Until that barrier is brought down, Signal may as well not exist at all.

I'm familiar both with the original author's arguments against federating the network and the project's arguments against actually opening the service, and I do not find them compelling. The fact that they allow the desktop client only to function when linked with a surveillance device is a counterargument they have never overcome.

edit to add: I'm not trying to talk anyone out of using Signal; it does not hurt me. But it's not even in the running for me.
CC: @jwz@mastodon.social

@khm
But you can download the apk? I know cause my neighbour uses it. https://signal.org/android/apk/

Also desktop clients are available for linux distros and run with no issues.

"The apk" only runs on phones whose operating system is provided by the single largest surveillance and tracking organization in human history -- that is, Android, from Google.

Desktop clients only run after they're linked to an Android or iPhone device.