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a lot of "AI deleted their prod data and backups" and not enough "they had their backups in the same volume as their prod data"

it's pretty convenient to blame AI for everything from deleted my wife's files to deleted the prod database to targeted a school full of children. I'm sorry but there's humans behind all of those things. HUMANS.

AI is not taking anyone's job, it's some guy making that decision

@lzg

Very good point. Humans making the decision to dive headlong into AI are to blame for whatever comes next for there organization. There have always been idiots who do dumb stuff. This is just the latest way to fuck up.

@lzg
I mean, "AI broke prod" is the modern version of "computer says no"...
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@lzg@mastodon.social sorry for bothering you... do you know that case of a guy who shot his own mother because his best friend* the chat gpt chatbot told him to do that?

@rageblanche @lzg Adam Raine and others too.

I think there's room for nuance in the discourse though I do reckon it's somewhat negligent to overlook the surveillance & market/mindset capture/theft elements (not to mention enviro/water consumption)

mocking folks for highlighting enduser pitfalls (however personally naive) is a bit much tho

@oscarjiminy@oscarjiminy@aus.social I understand you for the first part and agree for the factors, elements you mentioned. for the second part i don't understand (english is not my native language), im not mocking anything. it's as @lzg@mastodon.social described in her posts about AI as from what i have read that there are HUMANS behind that algorithm and as much as someone is working on it, someone is deliberately trying to make it ultimately squeeze more money out of the customer or make more profit for the company or whoever is behind it. in all the extremeties of the case i mentioned as well.

@rageblanche@basspistol.org @lzg I wasn't suggesting you were mocking anyone, I think Lena's gently mocking folks for losing data which to be clear is a fine thing to do but it's overlooking a lot of other issues with ai that are inseparable from the technology broadly imo

@oscarjiminy i’m not mocking, i’m saying we don’t want to use AI for laundering human responsibility. yes there’s a lot of issues with the technology and the harms are real, i’m not denying that. i think saying “ai did this or that” is giving it more agency than it really has.

@lzg

If I understood their report correctly, this was a platform issue not theirs. They had backups as a separate abstraction from volumes, but a policy that deleting a volume also deleted the backups of a volume.

I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that, if a platform offers ‘backups of X’ as a feature then deleting X does not delete the backups (at least, not immediately. Deleting backups after some configurable grace period would be fine).

@lzg also so far it seems not to be firings to be replaced by an LLM in your roll, but rather to pay for an LLM in an unspecified roll.