Basically, the only thing left on Aman is my email, and my brother's websites. I've decided to spin those websites out into their own VPS, one I can later transfer to him.

Thus, if I migrate my email, I can shut down the server.

 08:55:49 up 1210 days, 22:51,  4 users,  load average: 0.18, 0.28, 0.27

...it really should be shut down.

Urgh. Webmail. That's a royal pain.

I might just move webmail to its own subdomain, that feels less painful... in the new setup, I'd have roundcube running on Luggage, fronted by a local nginx, which in turn is fronted by Caddy on Eru.

That messes with the /webmail/ subdir a tiny bit.

Myeah, failing to get things working in a subdir, so... new subdomain it is I guess.

On a subdomain, the same URL is sometimes 404, sometimes 200. Fuuun.

And sometimes 500!

Not sure I want to continue with this. I might... uhhh.... shove roundcube into a container and serve that, instead of doing it the NixOS way.

That at least works.

Alternatively: I find another webmail client. Preferably not PHP.

Good luck, me.

@algernon It's a message from the future! If you can decode it, you'll get the master password for OpenAI scrapers and can disable them.

Why are all webmail clients shit.

At this point, I'm considering reviving the webmail client I wrote in ~1997, because even though that was shit too, it's less shit than today's webmail clients.

algernon stomps away angrily, having decided to "fuck this shit", and come back some other day

Alternative thought: can I convince my Mom to stop using webmail?

Because then I could throw this entire pile of garbage into the bin where they belong.

@algernon well, are there native clients that arent shit?

@hsza Yes, mbsync + notmuch are <3.

K9 (or whatever its current name is) on Android is also far less of a problem than Roundcube has been so far.

@algernon afaik k9 has been sunset in favor of thunderbird

@hsza Yeah, but I've had K9 installed, it's still updating (I guess it's Thunderbird now, under the K9 name), and it's working at an acceptable level.

...unlike Roundcube, which is just an undebuggable pile of steaming shit.

@algernon if i could convince my grandma to use matrix your mom can do anything, i believe in her

@alina well, she's already learning Emacs, so... I have high hopes. The major problem is not really the "if", but of "when".

I'd like to decommission the old server sooner, rather than later. Preferably without resotring to running junk in containers as "temporary" workarounds.

@algernon @hsza omg i didnt know these yet that looks great for having to leave nushell+neovim less

@alina @hsza I can highly recommend notmuch (or mu). Organizing email using search is sooooooooooooooooo so so so much nicer than organizing into folders. notmuch's tags are such a powerful tool here. Tried it once, can't email without tags & search since, it's so very addictive.

And when it is all synced locally, that makes all of it fast.