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"you should have kids so they will take care of you later"

oh, guess i fucked that one up

oh well, guess i'll figure it out at some point

@ariadne "Be rich" is the answer to old age without a community (social/familial/whatever) safety net 🙄

@ska what I am hearing is that I should recruit a mid-20s youngster into my polycule

@ariadne Close enough, I suppose 😁

the largest fear I have is literally developing dementia. I would not want to continue existing in such a state, and hope that my friends and family would support me in seeking euthanasia in such a scenario.

I should probably also set up a family office or something

@ariadne unfortunately they would not be able to legally. all euthanasia legislation i've seen has a "of sound mind" requirement.

i have a 50/50 shot of early onset alzheimer's

@ariadne I think this is what an advance directive is for

@aburka no I mean I have a reasonably sized nestegg, stock holdings from various tech companies I've worked for, etc. advanced directive is part of the overall package but really I need to figure out what happens in general

@mensrea I think you can get around it with an advanced directive

@ariadne @aburka you want to talk with a good estate attorney. They will help you with not just a will but setting up medical directives, power of attorney etc. and can advise you on how to best protect your assets and set them up for your heirs (or whatever organization you want to get them in the future)

A family office is typically for folks with $100M+ (or so I’ve heard - I do know a few families with them). But it’s very common (especially in the Bay Area) to have a revocable trust

@ariadne you realize that’s how these things start right? fear of death / being forgotten leading to procreation, and at a higher level, setting up mechanisms of attribution / control to make sure “your ways are not forgotten”

none of these are inherently bad, but look where they are taking us

@aburka @Rycaut can I just go back to being poor? that seems more fun

pros of cloud native: because of cloud native, I have "made it"

cons of cloud native: because of cloud native, I have "made it"

damn u kubernetes

@ariadne @aburka honestly a good attorney makes the process pretty straightforward.

(And giving away your assets is a real option - lots of people make it their goal before they die to have largely given away their assets while they are still around to choose how to have an impact)

But yeah it’s definitely in the “serious adulting” category of life tasks.

@lvmbdv_was_taken but that's the thing, I legit do not care about any of that.

@aburka @Rycaut my main motive with getting ahead of the adulting with the FO is because I do expect my holdings to grow into it

@ariadne well then why are you worrying about dementia? it does not happen overnight, unlike death

@lvmbdv_was_taken I care about having integrity of mind. of the ego.

@lvmbdv_was_taken like, I have no fear of death. I had a near-death experience where I had pneumonia as a complication of catching the flu which was particularly nasty in 2018.

losing my cognitive ability, however, is a dealbreaker

@ariadne i highly recommend hedging against that impulse with a bit of eastern philosophy, for total wellbeing

@lvmbdv_was_taken I mean there's certainly truth to that, and for the most part it's not really about the ego, but just about basic dignity. quantity of life is meaningless if quality is zero.

I miss the days where alpine was this niche thing and I was a broke ass kid making money slinging VPSes

@ariadne i agree, but there must be a balance; imbalance in some values, which could be outside your control, no judgement here, leads to the stuff many of us keep complaining about, is my point

life was simple back then: if I wanted to go somewhere I just snuck on board a freight train like a gremlin

@lvmbdv_was_taken im not worried about it because I can plan to take action about it with an advanced directive

@ariadne that is what probably has been said before some of my friends were lost to me, just be careful about the ego (not just yours) is what i'm saying

@ariadne I worry more about strokes than dementia. Also, have you seen this anti-dementia vaccine?

https://archive.ph/lwXWa

@ariadne @mensrea It depends on state law. In CA I could specify when to discontinue life support and put in a DNR/no-heroic-measures order, but not conditions for actual euthanasia. WA may have other options.

My brush with the afterlife had the same cause as you: pneumonia. 0 stars, would not buy again. Though the memories of my stay filtered through the coma are... trippy.

@fazalmajid yes I plan to do shingrix when I qualify for it

@ariadne wait u had a train hopper arc? 👀

@xyhhx yeah like 20 years ago

@ariadne thats pretty cool

@ariadne But there are also kids whose parents need to essentially take care of them past parental death.

People should only have kids because they want to be parents and they want to have kids.

@mensrea
Belgian law allows you to do what is called a "wilsverklaring" (declaration of desire) where you can say while you're still sound of mind that you want to be euthanized under certain given circumstances.

It requires that you nominate a person to make the final decision, and you still have to go through all the other (nontrivial) legal requirements, but it is possible and I know people who have done it.
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