@rl_dane @navi with any luck Debian forky will ship a usable openRC with fully native services

@rl_dane
https://codeberg.org/gentoo/gentoo/src/branch/master/net-misc/openssh/files/sshd-r2.initd

@Diziet @JeremiahFieldhaven would also run the fork if the Debian package does not get reverted

@sunweaver @Diziet @JeremiahFieldhaven I filed a bug for that today.

@rl_dane yeah....
Though I really like openrc, it is like a mature sysvinit. Once that support has landed and the rough edges are done this should be a very solid experience. The major missing services are ssh, dbus, bluetooth, some dns(avahi?), cron.

@rl_dane @benjamineskola @RootMoose haha, no. It still works, but the default is still systemd and most is catered towards that.

@rl_dane @RootMoose @benjamineskola
you'll want https://salsa.debian.org/helmutg/dpkg-root-demo/-/merge_requests/11 and https://salsa.debian.org/debian/openrc/-/commits/wip/native. This works for a bare sysinit, but I did not test more than that. Note that this is highly experimental and you need to build your own packages.

@navi @benjamineskola @RootMoose @rl_dane @2something already works for sysinit, but nothing yet I would daily drive. Though I would really need testing of all init scripts that do not exist yet as native openrc service, such as ssh, apache, ...

Today's wtf moment: Stocked up on my anti histamine medication today, and asked for one not containing a certain compound. The pharmacist the looked around for a bit and then was like " Guess I'll ask AI". It took me quite some restraint not to add a snarky comment.
In the end the found one manually anyway, but Jesus...

@josch es gibt Flohmarkt vom @grindhold, aber das ist noch in den Anfängen

@josch what the fuck.

@navi wow, that was fast, thanks!

@highvoltage honestly with people using slop machines like that without thinking my patience is rather thin. This is akin to spinning a magic 8 ball, and people still trust it.

@josch yeah that is one of the bugs that I still need to fix

@josch had the same situation when I finally figured out why non-graphical boot in debvm with openRC did not run. Turns out /proc/cmdline set the tty to S0, and no agetty was started there.

honestly hacking on openRC support in #Debian these past weeks did teach me more about how operating systems work than any course (not that I visited one).

Already thirty degrees C and we're not even in a summer month. But sure, let's continue to ignore those isolated incidents, it's always been warm in the summer.

@sean wow, I wish we had smth akin to that in Germany

@GyrosGeier @tomjennings you can repat the layout, and also align footprints horizontally and/or vertically so their centers match. Alternatively you can set a snap point and then move the components in relation to that.