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werdahias (tired) @ KiCon | @werdahias@pleroma.debian.social

Debian Developer. KiCad Contributor. EE student.
Likes hiking, reading and free software.
#RightToRepair
"Freiheit ist immer Freiheit des anders Denkenden." - Rosa Luxemburg

「 What LLMs in Debian development will do, I fear, is eliminate any incentive to scrap boilerplate or reform policies that require a lot of other senseless human effort. If I had had access to LLMs 30 years ago, I might have just had them generate the rules files, replate with complexity. So they will make Debian even more firmly what it is, and ever less likely to explore what it could become 」

https://joeyh.name/blog/entry/Debian_and_the_sirens/

Earlier today the library team did merge the 'kicad-library-utils' repository into the 'kicad-footprints-generator' repo. While at it, we also renamed it to 'kicad-library-tools' (KiLT) and changed the default branch to main.

We want a mono-repo for all tooling to simplify maintenance. A few years back we did a similar thing with the 3d-generator.

There still a lot of open tasks. This was just the first step, now the cleanup commences.

(Logo proposal for the merged repo)
Two wrenches with colorful plaid pattern hold a opamp-symbol and a DIP package

Attribution: The wrenches and the DIP chip have been taken from openclipart. They are CC0, but I still want to mention that page since its a awesome resource. The OpAmp Symbol is from the kicad library. I put all that together in inkscape.

@mirabilos @BetaRays the only (small) consolation is that I know I did all that was possible, and that I am on the right side of things.
To quote Waving The Guns:

"
Bin lieber unten mit den Schwulen und den Frauen und den Juden
Als mich mit euch insecurem Abschaum rumzusuhlen
"

so, we have a winner, it seems: Proposal E

I actually am rather surprised while at the same time being not surprised: this is the option that says "keep the status quo but call whatever you do 'responsible'". A very #Debian thing, indeed.

It even mentions that slop is probably breaking copyright (while at the same time carefully wording to not even actually state that).

(edited to add: if you look at the Graphviz result, you’ll see that, after this option, the pro-slop ones have landed over the pro-art ones; this (it’s preferential voting) makes me sad)

So, what does that mean?

No rage-quitting, at least. (This is very much in the interest of the users.) But also no improvement. But also no official sanctioning of slop.

I cannot believe I am saying this, but I’m actually rooting for… Helene Fischer, the GEMA, and the german Medienanstalten… to save us, by getting courts to recognise these issues.

I cannot believe I am writing the above. This timeline is bizarre.

The bubble is also already bursting, but not fast enough, which is raising the collateral damage each minute it has not yet burst. (Here I mean financial, trust, etc. but for #FOSS specifically, it also means that LLM-extruded digital asbestos gets added to more and more codebasēs in growing quantities, which will be hard to recover from.)

What I would like to know is why such an important topic has, what, under 40% voting participation. smh

(the preliminary automated report by the voting tool does not give the numbers; the project secretary will do so within days, so this is a guesstimate)

Practically, what can we do?

Pretty much only this:

Ride out trixie without rsyslog (and without backports) until the end of its #ELTS, grudgingly installing kernel security updates. Avoid LPNs (npm, composer, pip, cargo, go get, etc.) at all cost (this is not new but now more important than ever). Use third-party repos only after manually checking for slop policies for both the repo and the softwares contained within (I had to split my own repo, I added a non-free component for ensloppified tomcat9 but kept the last one from before in the component with the main policy).

Check out unensloppified OSes as alternatives in parallel (seems to have only NetBSD as contender, among OSes capable of running similar enough use cases). Prepare to switch to unensloppified OS at any time, around 2035 at the latest. Do not hope that by then all the slop will be reverted from core system components (if it is, I will be pleasantly surprised, but right now, #Linux is dying).

Reduce computers and compute in your life.

And, if you can, fight this on useful levels. Not copyright licences, they ignore these and consent anyway. But: On a political level, up to and including guillotines, if you must. On an educational level, with friends, family, and even pupils/students. The younger generations are not lost. Make a worthwhile future, including human art, craft, crocheting, knitting, music, painting, woodworking, what have you. Doesn’t matter if it’s not good: it’s yours. Read books (from before 2020 or so). Go out, make train trips, cycle, garden, including fruit and vegetables. Care for your cats and other loved ones. And say no to fashtech.

to add insult to injury, the text of the winning proposal is already slop 🤮

I totally missed that in the mailing list volume, thanks @BetaRays for noticing. I am extremely disappointed. I am Not Amused. Even if it is, ultimately, a status quo choice that means faschos will continue to use the slop machine and call it "responsible" while sensible people will continue to consider slop nōn-free. Couldn’t even have the decency to write it himself (and let the l10n-en team, which does exist, look it over if he was concerned about writing in a foreign language), but noooo… fashtech is more convenient. I hate this, all of it.

At least I tried. Numerous times. That’s all I can say.

@fabos
No idea about a list, but:

Gentoo: ban
GUIX: ban
FreeBSD: ban

off the top of my head.

@cmb@cathode.church
In-Reply-To: https://cathode.church/@cmb/117010284611098086

Catgirls at Rockchip must have been in great distress.

This is RK3588s. Also resolution of the PDF is so bad you cant read the numbering :)
Bottom view of RK3588S BGA package. Many solder balls are missing. Pattern is random.

Well, looks like I'll be greatly reducing my #Debian involvement:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2026/08/msg00360.html
Very disappointing.

RE: https://doesstuff.social/@lety/117169378281971732

I was educated about neo(reactionary)vim after someone boosted this. Thanks for the heads up e-girl

Bummed about nvim, but at least it's only one of many vims.

RT: https://doesstuff.social/users/lety/statuses/117169378281971732

the british home secretary has the power to deny entry through UK customs to any non-citizen, including members of the french far-right, and i hope that they do: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/aug/28/french-far-right-leader-jordan-bardella-address-reform-uk-party-conference

fuck nazis. it wouldn't be the first time. in 2009, the then home secretary denied entry to the netherlands' own Geert Wilders, another neo-nazi:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/feb/12/far-right-dutch-mp-ban-islam

let's hope that the labour party of 2026 has as much or more guts as the one that existed in 2009. calling the french national rally neo-nazis isn't even theoretical, they were literally originally the national front; they once shared a platform with the UK's erstwhile BNP (british national party).

yes, i want nazis to be prevented from, you know, existing. fuck nazis.

if governments just openly denounce nazis like they did in 2009, and openly denounce nazi ideology like they did in... 2009, instead of sucking up to them like they do in 2026, then maybe we might, you know, send nazi ideology back where it belongs: 1945.

we'll see.

Pessoas com as cores da bandeira trans e equipadas com o canhão de braço da personagem Samus. Texto: "Repost this if Trans people should have Samus Arm Cannons" (Reposte isso se pessoas trans deveriam ter Canhões de Braço da Samus).

My Friend Lunic:

...

My Friend @khm helped me draw this picture. It would not exist without him.

@nixCraft

it's been 3 days already, but my friend Lunic is still talking about some weird distro from a dude who made an email service that doesn't work with email clients.

I think he went stupid.

Lunic: omarchi omarchi omarchi omarchi

Great, neovim, which I am kinda invested in (plugins, LSP), has no problem hosting fascists.
Already some of my favorites like tmux turned to slop, but I can't live without neovim.
This is just depressing, honestly. I kinda can't ditch my editor, and already am maintaining a few plugins for it. Not sure what I'll do.

Alternating blinking in pure RISC-V assembler: done.

bash.org #826340

<apples> the program 'apt-get' is currently not installed. You can install it by typing: apt-get install apt
<fuchoo> lol

Modern Dependency Problems (with apologies and thanks to XKCD)

Probably needs more arrows, tbh

The classic XKCD dependency stack cartoon, but relabeled. The image shows a huge pile of boxes representing "all modern digital infrastructure" precariously balanced atop each other. A label at the right (ha!) says "A project led by a guy who then turns out to be a fascist" and arrows point from that to boxes all over the diagram.

Autistici/Inventati's domains have now been revoked. I updated the link in the above post with a wayback machine copy.

Every now and then someone tells me, "We have a decentralized naming system, it's called DNS!" and I say, no we don't, DNS is extremely centralized? And if that wasn't clear to you before, hopefully it's clear to you today.

Solution
@gagath very good. This is indeed a blinking circuit ( 2 Hz and 0.167 Hz, respectively). Though it is designed to let the LEDs shine through from the back, so a luminous effect is created.

Die Hackerethik[1] hat ja eine Punkt "Mülle nicht in den Daten anderer Leute."

Ich finde das ist nochmal sehr aktuell. Ne aktuelle Interpretation wäre
"Sloppe nicht in anderer Leute Projekt"

[1] https://www.ccc.de/hackerethik

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