@mirabilos
Very! I can consistently reach D2, though only barely and with a lot of air and not a lot of volume. If I had a lot of alcohol and/or not a lot of sleep the night before, I can *sometimes* reach C2, but it's rare.

I once sang with someone who could reach G1 (not a typo). Now *that* was impressive. And beautiful.
@bytebro

@mirabilos
I can reach E4 without warm-up. With warm-up I can get a little bit higher than that, sometimes up to G4.

I however did not say it was easy, nor that it is something I can sustain for long stretches of time without hurting my throat 😉
@bytebro

Yes, current LLM bad, because of the unethical behaviour of the companies pushing it. And yes, that's reason enough to dislike current LLMs.

But the tech itself is not terrible, and if we can build it ethically, can be useful.
@mjg59 @Ced

@Ced
I don't think that anyone is claiming that we have that today. Certainly I didn't read Matthew's post that started off this thread in that way.

There's a subset of people in the free software community that go 'all LLM bad'. I don't necessarily agree with that.
@mjg59

@mirabilos
Well during my recent audition I got to F above middle C without resorting to falsetto, which when the conductor told me (I don't have absolute pitch) surprised me, but only a bit.

Would have been able to get a bit higher but that probable would've hurt my voice so I didn't
@bytebro

@Ced
and (b) them wanting to serve millions of users which requires more compute, than it is about limitations inherent in the technology.

All you need to replicate this is a sufficiently large data set, a bit of compute time, and an open source license.
@mjg59

@Ced
GCC at the time was thought of as something no volunteer could build.

They did it anyway.

There is nothing inherent about the technology behind LLMs that can't be built by a sufficiently determined group of volunteers.

The fact that current LLMs require whole data centres to run has more to do with (a) the fact that companies take performance shortcuts because they have money to burn and it takes them to market faster,
@mjg59

@bytebro
I mentioned it in the post, but: 2nd bass, ever since I was 18 or so.
@AweThatSparkle @mirabilos

@mirabilos
John Rutter?

*Jealous*
@bytebro

@bytebro
Ooohh, can I join the club? Been in choirs since I was 16, almost continuously until my early 40s, went on a break 'for a few months' after my Intercontinental move that ended up being 7 years...

2nd bass at scct.co.za since a few months now and loving it!
@mirabilos @AweThatSparkle

@mirabilos
You are aware that there's a rust frontend to GCC in progress, right?

https://github.com/Rust-GCC/gccrs
@xgranade

@Karlitschek
Is nextcloud actively engaging with governments to try and promote what you do? If so is there anything public on that that I can read?

@tiikerikani
Oh my.

In my case the problem was "your prepaid data bundle was supposed to be activated but it wasn't and now my 50-something megabytes of data usage was charged by the megabyte which cost me nearly 30 euros".

It took only a few minutes to get an actual human on the line, then a further few minutes for her to confirm and fix on their side and refund me 30 euros, so at least there was *some* competence there...

@vagrantc
Yeah, there isn't a packages.debian.org equivalent, indeed extrepo search is your best bet.
@radicle

@vagrantc
*Gently nudges extrepo*
@radicle

@hedders
An Android tablet that you then root and run a normal Linux on? You can do this with some models, though unfortunately not all.

There are also some laptops that have detachable screens which then essentially turn into tablets.