pleroma.debian.social

jlines | @jlines@pleroma.debian.social

.

jlines jlines
re: IPV6 and the Fediverse
@JohnLines social.debian.org is IPv4 and IPv6 too

jlines jlines
IPV6 and the Fediverse

Many fediverse sites only have an IPv4 address, which may not seem to matter, as people with an IPV6 only device (such many mobile phones) can still access them as a client via their provider mapping to IPV4 on network exit. For twitter.com this does not matter, but an IPv4 only site can not Federate with an IPV6 only site. Please read RFC 9386 - IPv6 Deployment Status and ask your Ipv4 only server to act.

jlines jlines
@highvoltage Congratulations ! 😀

jlines jlines
@libreoffice although I personally use Debian on my desktop, I know this is unusual, and making Free Software more readily available to users on all platforms is really important, as is people from various backgrounds coming together to give to the world.

jlines jlines
@bert_hubert I certainly agree with all your concerns about the influence of large corporations on standards bodies, although tempered by the possibility that the best representatives can 'go rouge' and actually try to develop a good technical standard. Your points did make me think that there should be something like a public Issue Tracker behind the standard, to turn those points into issues to be resolved before release.

jlines jlines
If only there was some alternative ...

From the BBC - Twitter can’t protect you from trolls any more, insiders say

I find it alarming and depressing that a BBC Disinformation and social media correspondent does not appear to be aware that there are options that the people who have joined the #TwitterMigration have found to be better.

jlines jlines
@milica_m @thomasfuchs quite agree on that, and, although I have not tried it myself, I believe the systems for moving within the Fediverse without losing followers are supposed to be OK, so now is the time they should be devolving some kind of presence and gaining experience.

jlines jlines
@milica_m @thomasfuchs They will be able to control, via robots.txt which parts of social.companyname.com are indexed, and may want to do so, as some of the content will be outside their control.
They should also look to supplement the section they put onto every web page which points people to their Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn (and in some cases Google+) presence with a link to their Fediverse presence, wherever that may be.

jlines jlines
@acesabe @fribbledom I think my N900 has finally died, but I still have it, in case one day I will find the time to investigate more thoroughly and perhaps resurrect it. If Nokia had not switched focus to the Windows Phone we would probably all be using their phones as N900 descendants today 😢

jlines jlines
@milica_m @thomasfuchs However I agree it is still better than emulating Twitter etc and setting up an account on some random server.

jlines jlines

@milica_m @thomasfuchs If there are SEO issues then they are probably in the heads (or sales pitches) of people who want to sell more domain names. There seems to be quite a good correlation between organisations who understand the internet, and use its tree structure to good effect and those who hope it will all go away soon. It is good to be a tree

jlines jlines
@EC_OSPO The reasons given apply to all democratic governments, even if I wish someone would come up with a more catchy term for ActivityPub based microblogging, so the one implementation - i.e. Mastodon, does not have to be used exclusively.

jlines jlines

@osdc Interesting article, dating back to 2018, so some of the links are now dead, or point to marketing sites. but still interesting and valid. The link to Creative Commons content on Vimeo was interesting. I look forward to the day when there will be as much good content on Peertube.

jlines jlines
@openrightsgroup @mattmaison @beisbolcards @BylinesNetwork The other thing about your own server is that, even with some king of 'account verification' you can inherit the trust of your domain - anyone could make a Twitter account call something like RealOpenRightsGroup or some such, but only the domain owner (or their delegated agents) can create identities under a domain.

jlines jlines
@MediaActivist Pleroma, which I am posting from, is more of an alternative implementation of ActivityPub based microblogging to Mastodon. I believe having multiple implementations of the protocols, as well as multiple instances, is good for a healthy Fediverse Ecosystem. I think PeerTube, as an alternative to YouTube deserves to be better known and more widely implemented. See https://framatube.org/w/9dRFC6Ya11NCVeYKn8ZhiD for an example.

jlines jlines

@jvagle @jwz This is because ‘big’ social media captured the mind space, and users think that being on the same system as all their friends - i.e. a Feudal solution is the only option. Educating people to know there are other options is a hard slog, but hopefully worthwhile

jlines jlines

@rysiek many people think they only have a choice between Feudal solutions. Much of this is because they are perceived as easier, and there also a big ‘real life’ social factor. There are lots of people who have used, say, Facebook for ages, and who are quite willing to share their knowledge, thus becoming ambassadors and unpaid sales people for the big brands.

jlines jlines
@vurpo I remember being in an airport (a long time ago) where all the flight information screens were showing a Windows Blue Screen of Death - not reassuring when you are about to get on a plane.

jlines jlines
Where do people go from Twitter

I know I am, literally, preaching to the converted here, but heard a BBC radio journalist this lunchtime saying how sad she was that Twitter was going downhill and she would have to switch to Instagram, i.e leave the domain of Lord Musk, for Lord Zuckenberg. No thought of the Fediverse. Some people are determined to live in a Feudal Internet.

jlines jlines
@blaine @EU_Commission on reflection, you are right - a lot goes on in our local library, and I could use my library card number as an identifier, as I do for some of the on-line services they provide. I have used the Inter-library loan system, to get a book from another county even. I remember it existing before the Internet, so they were indeed federated first !

»