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@thevril @contrapunctus @snikket_im @grimalkina I do like that list too, and use Conversations (via #fdroid and donate via @mastadon.xyz@liberapay). My aim is to inform people that alternatives to monolithic Instant Messengers exist, and encourage more mainstream use.

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@ireneista @contrapunctus @grimalkina @Lunaphied I am concerned about the risks associated with metadata for some time, specifically in the context of Who pays for WhatsApp, but any centralised system, e.g. Signal, or Telegram - even if well intentioned, will be vulnerable to insiders being bribed of coerced. Federation limits the insider information scope.

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@grimalkina @contrapunctus I suggest actually trying XMPP - there are links to Free Clients and servers at https://xmpp.org/getting-started/, but you might find the 14 day trial at https://snikket.org/ (and then about $6 per month for up to about 10 people) worth a go. They are a friendly interface on real XMPP, and I like their transparency, and that they are on the Fediversse @snikket_im

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@grimalkina @contrapunctus XMPP has been around for a very long time, but because it is a standard rather than a product there is no central point for a lobby group to promote it. You can find out more at https://xmpp.org/

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@ireneista @Lunaphied @contrapunctus @grimalkina the benefit of a widely dispersed, federated XMPP network is that it is very resistant to traffic analysis. Working towards wider availability of systems such at #freedombox help with this, as well as spreading the knowledge that open standards based chat is available, and has been for some time.

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@bun @GossiTheDog Bring Your Own Device. An acknowledgement by businesses that many people have, for example a personal mobile phone which is more recent than the one they issue, and that it is very inconvenient to operate with two devices. They benefit from the intermingling of work and personal life, with people taking work home, for example, but this introduces complex security issues.

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@bontchev @GossiTheDog I am pretty sure it is from Pink Floyd's The Wall

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@thelovebug @liv @beasts this is how a business can benefit from a Fediverse presence without taking out advertising space on a Commercial Social Media platform. Allow customers to reference you when the subject of your business area comes up, and focus on providing a good service.

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@liv Mythic-Beasts do DNS registration, are technical and customer focussed, and, unlike many companies, understand the fediverse by being here @beasts

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@fmarier I have come across this too, and find it a worrying sign. I am not sure I want to deal with an organisation which is so ignorant of the internet that they think they are helping their users by having a box to enter your username and a dropdown for whether you are (gmail.com, outlook.com, live.com ... - I think there were less than 10).
Almost as alarming to find the number of Universities - who should know better - running their email on MS Exchange.

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@Nickiquote @alwirtes @sk76 @futurebird at University (a long time ago!) some of the halls of residence were fitted with 2 amp sockets an students bought 13A extension socket blocks and fitted them with 2A plugs. You could trace the wiring in the room by the warmer patch in the wall when a kettle was in use!

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@mansr @lampsofgold @futurebird I worked on an oil rig which had both 110V and 240v sockets available, and plugged a US VT220 computer terminal into a 240V socket. The device ends of the cables were IEC 60320 C13/C14 connectors, with different mains plugs, and there were plenty of both types available. It ran for several days 😀

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@rwg @aram I find it hard to understand why journalists have not realised that Commercial Social Media is a rival, not a friend, and that by elevating someone else's platform to 'the voice of the people' they have abdicated their previously powerful position. In Britain 'The Daily Mail Reader[ was courted by politicians. They should have built their own social media presence. https://wordpress.debian.social/jlines/2021/10/17/federated-social-media-and-journalism/

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re: Olimex order arrived, safely and quickly 😃
@olimex some people (=Advertising executives) ask 'how can this Fediverse thing survive without Advertising' - but companies which provide a good service should not need to pay someone to say they are great - their customers will do it for them. Being present in places where their customers hang up will allow them to let people know about new things they are doing, with a good chance that they will be informing interested people.

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Olimex order arrived, safely and quickly 😃

My order of two Pioneer Freedombox systems, one for home, and one to lend to friends so they can try it, arrived. The order was put in yesterday, and I am in the UK, and we are in the Christmas period. Excellent service from @olimex and DHL (who don’t have a Fediverse presence.)

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@wouter @auschwitzmuseum Unfortunately when a group of people start to see members of another group not as people but as things then they no longer think of it as a crime. From their point of view this was more like the records a pest control officer would keep, an achievement, not a cause of shame. We should all be wary of the trap of simplifying and dehumanising. All (immigrants/police/jews/arabs/republicans/democrats/blacks/whites/straights/gays....) are evil/good.

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@mike @jdp23 @rwg I see one of the biggest problems with current social media is that the algorithms keep showing readers more of what they like to see, but rather like issues of highly processed foods, it is not always a good thing to be fed only what you like.

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@mike @rwg @jdp23 I see Flipboard and similar as being able to add value as content aggregators, similar to the way the BBC has ‘The Papers‘ articles on its website. Flipboard, by working with publishers, hence filtering out unreliable sources, could give access to a spectrum of views on, say Electric cars.

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@mnot @1br0wn sometimes I am so tempted to tap someone on the shoulder and say 'I am so sorry your piles are painful' or whatever personal thing they are discussing, or comment on a film or restaurant they have mentioned.

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@rwg @jdp23 @mike Very much agree on the running their own servers - while appreciating Flipboard's promotion of the Fediverse. Flipboard, and Facebook, Twitter etc flatten the name space, removing useful clues for the reader about the real source. If something appears on a monolithic site, which appears to be from something like a source you trust, you could easily be misled. The reader is expected to trust the platform, not the source.

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